Curse

Sir Pandra Pierva · Nov 06, 2007, 03:17 AM // 03:17

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Originally Posted by X Cytherea X

good sins can kill enemy non-monks even if they have a monk

if the monk hasn't made preperations for the sins coming

X Cytherea X · Nov 06, 2007, 03:56 AM // 03:56

^that's true for spike builds

but i can usually hack non-monks continuously, nullifying heals and prots cast on it, until it dies. and the monk knows full well his teammate is dying but cant do nothin bout it

a few monks are good tho, and i gotta switch over to them

bungusmaximus · Nov 06, 2007, 10:42 AM // 10:42

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Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva

if the monk hasn't made preperations for the sins coming

How about the rest of the team, a team with a brain isn't going to watch it's monk getting pummeled to death. Monk helps team -> team helps monk.

DudeManOzzy · Nov 06, 2007, 12:20 PM // 12:20

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Originally Posted by X Cytherea X

good sins can kill enemy non-monks even if they have a monk

Presisely, in fact, in my battles, monks are usually the last to die, the main targets are mesmers, necromancers and dervishes

Saphatorael · Nov 06, 2007, 12:59 PM // 12:59

Are we talking about PvE or PvP now...?

In PvE, just go straight for the healers or whatever's balled up most, then just ms/db spam.

In PvP, I've been said to be too patient, but when I DO spike, I tend to get a kill. I just 'pressure' someone (almost never my real target, since he/she's mostly protted) with simple auto-attacking (it's not much, but it's something), as soon as I see someone vulnerable (such as a frenzying warrior, or a mesmer on 80% of his/her health, or seeing a monk under severe pressure, then going for the other, now vulnerable monk, etc.), I go for it if the situation lets me (shadow stepping way out of range of anything that can keep you alive is a big no-no).

As for pressure builds, going for their real backbone would be more profitable, of course.

Yanman.be · Nov 06, 2007, 01:21 PM // 13:21

^^^^^^^^^^^^ This is good advice.

If you see someone in trouble, don't go for him, go for the one thing that is keeping him alive. Assassins do alot of damage, so why waste a chain on a 20% hp target when you can inflict much more on a full monk?

Autoattacking is also good....Just go on some squishie, like ele, mes, necro... they get protted, you switch targets, and kill the unprotted target...

Magikarp · Nov 06, 2007, 05:03 PM // 17:03

im sorry, but full radiants on a sin makes me laugh.

two words

zealous daggers.

if at 13 you can't keep up your energy pool practically near max, you need to re-work it all. i run full survivors, all minors with a major mask of dagger mastery when i need it, and i die almost as little as my warrior and para.

oh, and Saph and Yan are totally right. sins really shine when they use their powers for the guy trying to help his team that's busy trying to save his pal who's getting his face raped by a warrior. get em' while he's distracted! :P

Sir Pandra Pierva · Nov 06, 2007, 07:39 PM // 19:39

I prefer [skill]beguiling haze[/skill] For messing up spell casters in pvp. Little more expenisve on energy wise but it shuts down monks like no other.

Combine it with [skill]Flurry[/skill] I say good luck casting to any monk. put a little knockdown and nothing is going off.

Skuld · Nov 06, 2007, 08:30 PM // 20:30

Critical Agility keeps me alive.

Can't stand all this unneeded crap like Crit Defences and anything else.

Wheres the fun in spending half your time maintain a barful of enchantments?

Issac · Nov 06, 2007, 09:23 PM // 21:23

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Originally Posted by Skuld

Critical Agility keeps me alive.

Can't stand all this unneeded crap like Crit Defences and anything else.

Wheres the fun in spending half your time maintain a barful of enchantments?

I agree, crtical agility is all I use.

Sqube · Nov 06, 2007, 10:08 PM // 22:08

Magikarp: I'm assuming you're talking about PvP? I know that in PvE, I can't keep my energy topped off when I'm doing MB+DS spam, especially with Critical Agility. I assume it's different when you're running without an IAS although, quite frankly, I forget what that's like sometimes.

Skuld: If you do it right and/or you get to your enemies quickly enough (obviously speaking about PvE here), Critical Defenses stays up until you run out of people to fight. I don't know what you're talking about.

Issac: Your guild name is unfunny, irritating, and stretches the borders unreasonably. Trifecta of fail. Good show.

Issac · Nov 06, 2007, 10:11 PM // 22:11

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Originally Posted by Sqube

Issac: Your guild name is unfunny, irritating, and stretches the borders unreasonably. Trifecta of fail. Good show.

Lol took a while for someone to say something.

Skuld · Nov 06, 2007, 10:12 PM // 22:12

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If you do it right and/or you get to your enemies quickly enough (obviously speaking about PvE here), Critical Defenses stays up until you run out of people to fight. I don't know what you're talking about.

I can kill everything without needing it though, it staying up isn't an issue D:

Sir Pandra Pierva · Nov 06, 2007, 10:26 PM // 22:26

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Originally Posted by Sqube

Magikarp: I'm assuming you're talking about PvP? I know that in PvE, I can't keep my energy topped off when I'm doing MB+DS spam, especially with Critical Agility. I assume it's different when you're running without an IAS although, quite frankly, I forget what that's like sometimes.

I have no problems with zelous and that in keeping up my energy. But crit eye is kinda nice for that.

ensoriki · Nov 06, 2007, 11:01 PM // 23:01

>.> Although its not really a skill casually seen in pvp

in pve, where death won't come in the casual areas
[card]Way of the Empty Palm[/card]
Can be brought, energy wont be a problem, because off hand's are costing nothing and your more than likely going to get a critical hit while your energy isn't dropping if your getting e denial and 4 pips of regen or 3 (zealous )

*puts up flame shield*

Magikarp · Nov 06, 2007, 11:59 PM // 23:59

i always have crit agi up and still have np keeping my energy maxed Sqube

Sir Pandra Pierva · Nov 07, 2007, 01:02 AM // 01:02

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Originally Posted by ensoriki

>.> Although its not really a skill casually seen in pvp

in pve, where death won't come in the casual areas
[card]Way of the Empty Palm[/card]
Can be brought, energy wont be a problem, because off hand's are costing nothing and your more than likely going to get a critical hit while your energy isn't dropping if your getting e denial and 4 pips of regen or 3 (zealous )

*puts up flame shield*

*FLAMES* j/k
that works sometimes though.

Sqube · Nov 07, 2007, 02:30 AM // 02:30

Skuld: Yeah, I mostly use Critical Defenses when I know I'm going to see a lot of melee (usually in farming). For example, go fight five Hulking Stone Elementals without Critical Defenses. Then fight with them; you'll see the difference.

Magikarp and Sir Pandra Pierva: It's been a while since I've run Death Blossom, actually. I'll probably give it another spin with zealous daggers and see what happens.

Ultarium · Nov 08, 2007, 12:40 AM // 00:40

You guys tore me apart on the attunements, but I do perfectly fine with what I do, in missions if there arnt enchant removing enemies focused on me im always the last man standing. But hey im open to more help, if you can (I forgot who posted the very nice adjustments, but yea that guy/girl) could you put up like an acctual build full stats like insigs, runes, and max energy, oh yeah and weapon. TY

ensoriki · Nov 08, 2007, 12:48 AM // 00:48

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Originally Posted by Ultarium

Skills (the biggest part of a build in my opinion)

Hold the phone!!!

You can have a build without Skills!?

Holy shit!! excuse me I've got to tell my friend *5 minutes later*

Back, He says HOLY SHIT!!!!
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Anyways, you have critical strike and critical defenses.
If your running in pve, It may not be as ummm cookie SLICER as everyone elses but just

Jagged Strike
Wild Strike
Critical Strike
Critical defenses
Aura of Displacement
Way of Perfection
Shadow refuge/Feigned Neutrality
Res Sig

If you die >.>

Leeroy Jenkins would be proud. You may be asking (with good reason)
Why take out moebius
Well then if you want

GPS
Critical Strike
Moebius
Death Blossom
Way of Perfection/Shadow Refugee
Critical Defenses
Recall
Res Sig

Stays close to your original build but you have Recall a way to get out.